Why I’m Leaving Kinkly

Content note: abuse, consent violations, sexual violence, Charlie Sheen

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The following is an email I sent to Tara Struyk of Kinkly on November 9, 2018. I never received a response. Instead of waiting or continuing to send follow-up emails, I’ve asked today that all of my information be taken off of Kinkly. Time will tell if that truly happens.

Note that I mention phone calls aren’t always accessible to me and that’s why I sent this email in response to Tara reaching out. Choosing to ignore it is both an act of ableism and disregard for others. It’s just another nail in the Kinkly coffin – and, to be honest, a great way to show how much the general sexuality community seems to not give two fucks about any of this.

I’m incredibly disappointed, but it is what it is. You can’t help fix and improve things when people refuse to hear about the harm they’re doing.

Without further ado, here’s why I’m leaving Kinkly and removing their info from each of my sites:

I was disappointed to learn just how Kinkly refused to respond to issues with LELO in the past. I understand that they likely bring in a lot of income for the site. However, there are things more important than money, especially in the sex ed world.

I’ve opted to write this email to you versus having a phone call. Phone conversations are not accessible to me much of the time and, with my conditions affecting my ability to talk (or even have a voice) and the fact that I’m currently traveling, emailing this to you was a better choice all-around.

There are some major problems with LELO that I’d like to highlight. From what I understand, you’ve been given a lot of this information before. I hope that you read this with an open mind, though, and really take a look at what kind of reputation you want Kinkly to have – and whether it’s worth a connection with a company like LELO.

screenshot showing LELO Hex condoms in the Kinkly store

HEX condoms break super easily

Due to their unique structure, though, people aren’t seeing these breaks – especially since the HEX doesn’t shatter like a normal condom. While the idea behind this – that people might benefit from some protection versus no protection – isn’t inherently bad, it assumes that someone would have sex despite a broken condom. That’s not true, especially in 2018. Young people are working better on convos around consent and risk-aware sex than ever before. That also includes, oh, taking a minute to put on a new condom or changing up the planned sexual activity.

The broken HEX, though, means unplanned pregnancies and exposure to STIs are a constant with this brand. Pair that with misogynistic messages on the condoms themselves, and it’s not a good look. Multiple sex educators like Lorax, Sarah, and others have shared just how dangerous this product is.

With maternal death rates in birth rising, especially in the United States, even an unplanned pregnancy threatens lives. Between that and virulent, virtually untreatable strains of STIs moving around, it gets even worse. I’m not sure that I’d want any association to products that put people’s lives at risk, and I’m not so sure why Kinkly is okay with that as a brand.

The hiring of Charlie Sheen

It’s well known that Sheen has a history of being abusive, especially towards women. He’s very lucky he hasn’t succeeded in murdering – and he has tried. Just a few years ago, he cited sex workers as the reason he caught HIV as opposed to taking personal responsibility. That doesn’t even get into the multiple times he’s beaten or threatened women throughout his long career of being the bad-boy-gone-badder. Sex educators around the world have spoken out against his inclusion with LELO as well as the tactless messaging LELO brings by pulling in a man who hadn’t even come to terms with his own diagnosis yet in 2016.

Of course, LELO says they don’t endorse his past and that Sheen does ‘good work.’ Those kinds of claims are the ones that have protected so many abusers before the #MeToo Movement took hold – and it’s not okay. Continuing to support LELO with Sheen involved especially is a punch in the gut to the many survivors browsing your site.

Lack of accountability

Numerous sex educators have called LELO out on 1) HEX condoms, 2) poor and ineffective toy design, and 3) hiring Sheen. They refuse to engage in real conversations about these issues, either publicly or privately. Companies that send ‘jokes’ about STIs or promote shaming people because of their status are not the kinds of people we should be uplifting.

Insiders have even shared the following:

“I think the thing that upsets me the most is that Lelo – or at least the individual(s) at Lelo that are in charge of creating the most recent rounds of campaigns – simply don’t care. I don’t say that as a ‘they obviously don’t care as they’d be backtracking if they did’. I say that as someone who is acquainted with at least one individual who orchestrates these decisions, as far back as the Pino shitstorm. I watched their personal Twitter account and their interactions with their peers who were asking them WTF they were thinking. They were proud of it. They *are* proud of their Hex work, and have made that abundantly clear. They. Don’t. Care. Publicity is publicity to them – negative doesn’t matter. They referred to sex bloggers and educators who were rightfully questioning their decisions as ‘whiney SJWs’. Our opinions mean zero to them – and in fact, the more we tweet, the more they can say they’re the hottest topics of conversation. They feel they are too big to fall, too trenched in the industry to lose out. The more attention, the better even if it’s folks throwing out their Lelo toys in mass droves and swearing off never working with them again.”

Education-based sex toy shops like Sugar, Vibrant, and Smitten Kitten all refuse to carry LELO products due to all of the above. Even the Center for Sexual Pleasure and Health – a space that could use the potential money – tossed them out due to ethical concerns. When Kinkly is a site building a brand off of sex education, it’s important to find where you fall on that line – are you willing to sacrifice the health and satisfaction of your customers in order to make extra money? If so, I’m sad to say that you might as well remove all of the education components of your site.

Speaking of accountability…

I think it’s disappointing that you refuse to answer questions on Twitter. A few months ago, it took thousands of people chiming in on your very white & cishet sex educator post – including problematic people like Dan Savage who make transphobic, biphobic, ableist, and racist comments consistently – to get any change with that. At that point, several of us were ready to ask to be removed from the sex bloggers directory – not because of handling things as a toddler might when upset they weren’t chosen, but because Kinkly is supposed to be about sex education. It can’t be if you’re so concerned with maintaining the status quo that you’re not lifting up more marginalized voices.

It’s taken years to revamp your bloggers list and be transparent about the ways choices are made around it. I have to wonder what the point is in creating a top 100 sex bloggers list if you refuse to listen to concerns we bring up – or if you use it as a shield to refuse to handle criticism in a transparent space. Is it to force us into an odd space where we have to choose between getting traffic from your site and maintaining our ethics? I think we’ve seen how that’s worked out in the last two years.

Kinkly is going to have to change – if due to anything in particular, then because of the social shifts from misogynistic names for things to empowering discussions on consent and sexuality. More educators need to be hired for your site, not just for show but to actually help run it. Social media managers who are also sex educators, for instance, exist in droves. This is especially true among marginalized communities Kinkly consistently overlooks.

I’ve been happy to get named a superhero in the past. I think Kinkly can provide better content – and content that isn’t rooted in the issues many of us are working to change (e.g., misogyny, unnecessary labeling of genders when toys have no gender, etc.). For instance, you need to list ingredients on everything you sell – from lube to toys. This is for several reasons, including accessibility and keeping people safe. Many people have allergies and need to know what’s in the products they’re purchasing. Not listing ingredients could lead to someone going into anaphylactic shock, and I sure wouldn’t want that to happen to anyone.

What now?

People did not know that LELO was putting them at risk through their HEX condom or supporting abusers. Even if you believe Twitter is not a medium for a ‘respectful’ conversation [which was a note in Tara’s initial email to me], I would say that it does help inform people of issues like these to watch out for.

I believe Kinkly is at a crossroads. It can continue down the path of promoting unsafe condoms like the HEX, supporting abusers via LELO and Charlie Sheen, and putting out more white sex educator lists… or you can actively choose to make a change for the better. In my honest opinion, I believe you can make that change. It won’t be easy, sure, but it’s a worthwhile one to make. That’s especially true in 2018, as more companies navigate making changes for the better.

I would like to get a response from you about these issues and to know why you’re still working with LELO. Those of us on the sex bloggers superheroes list – especially those of us who point people in your direction – deserve to know that much.

This is another addition to the shitlist I never should have had to make if they actually value sex bloggers and educators as much as they say they do.

C’est la vie.

S2E12: The Problem with Woodhull and Tantus

TW discussion of sterilization, and mentions of rape and incest.

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Today, I’m rambling about the Woodhull Foundation and Tantus – and how they’ve messed up big time.

And, finally, on a happy note: Kate over at Girly Juice wrote a great post about the 25 Sex Educators/Writers of Color You Should Follow Right Now.

PS my sound gets crappy. I’m not sure why, but I’m going to look at a new mic today.

Transcript

Welcome, so the chronic sex podcast, chronic sex talks about how self love relationships, sex and sexuality are all affected by chronic illness and disability. That’s not all though. We’ll also touch on intersectionality, social justice, empathy, current events, and much, much more. Given the range of subject matter. This podcast is not suitable for those under the age of 18 and unless you have headphones You probably shouldn’t be listening to us at work. My name’s Kirsten Schultz and I’m your host.

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Don’t Let Them Trick You – MindGeek, PornHub, and YouPorn are Bad News

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Last updated October 24, 2021.

PornHub and YouPorn want you to think they’re good people. They really do. From giving funding to college sex educators to ‘fighting’ revenge porn to even paying for plows during snowstorms in major cities, they run some new positive propaganda stuff every time you turn around.

Don’t believe it for a single second. There’s a reason they’re on my blacklist.

They Have A Virtual Monopoly

PornHub’s parent company, MindGeek, has a virtual monopoly on ‘free’ porn streaming sites. These sites are modeled after YouTube, allowing users to upload content. Total, they consume the third-largest amount of bandwidth, with only Google and Netflix ahead of them. Companies they own or have a part in include (but aren’t limited to):

  • YouPorn
  • RedTube
  • Tube8
  • XTube
  • ExtremeTube
  • PornMD
  • PornIQ
  • Peeperz
  • GayTube
  • Babes.com
  • Men.com
  • Sextube
  • SpankWire
  • MyDirtyHobby
  • Webcams.com
  • Brazzers
  • Digital Playground
  • Reality Kings
  • Mofos
  • Twistys
  • Playboy
  • Wicked Pictures

They are involved with over 100 sites. No, I’m not kidding. If this wasn’t porn, I have a feeling they’d be more regulated and challenged by laws.

Stolen Content

One of the biggest issues with MindGeek companies is that they do not regulate stolen content. This means users can upload clips they got from any performer without that performer benefitting. There are even allegations that they cheat the system:

For example, one shady scenario involves a company that knowingly and willingly submits infringing content to its tube site — or pays others to do it for them — under the guise of “user” uploads. Then in an effort to seemingly comply with the DMCA, removes clips on request — only to have the compliance department send the removed material to the upload department, where this cynically cyclical process is endlessly repeated.

The monopoly MindGeek holds on streaming sites, in addition to the big production names they own or are involved with, makes it very difficult for performers to feel like they can speak up. Adult actress Tasha Reign said, “It’s like we’re stuck between a rock and a hard place in a way, because if I want to shoot content then I kinda have to shoot for [Mindgeek] because that’s the company that books me because they own…almost…everything.” The fear of being blacklisted by a company that owns nearly 100 sites is terrifying.

Siri, the owner of Abby Winters, said, “From personal experience, I know how hard it is to get my copyrighted content removed from tube sites – even the purportedly “legit” ones that porn magnate MindGeek owns still force copyright holders to jump through hoops to get our content removed from tube sites.” She goes on to explain that, like Walmart, MindGeek purposely has built a monopoly by providing ‘free’ content. Hell, they even profit more off pirated content than the stuff they produce and own.

It’s very costly to hire a legal team to issue DMCA takedown notices and threaten legal action, making it less accessible to people, too. That’s even more work someone has to do to afford to take legal action to keep the work they do from being pirated. At the end of the day, that costs too much in money, time, and energy for sex workers – especially disabled SWs.

That monopoly also forces a number of performers, sites, and stores who would object to MindGeek’s ethics to work with them. If they don’t, they’d likely cease to exist. This has been an issue for nearly a decade.

Like Walmart, the quality of films made goes way down. When the #PayForYourPorn movement started, Megan Wozniak – the marketing director of Adult DVD Empire – said, ”If people continue down this road, porn is not gonna get made. It’ll all be amateur content, and you won’t get the high-resolution, high production quality that you have with the studios. We just wanted to educate consumers who might not be aware of the effects of pirated content.”

This becomes even worse when we consider that, unlike other film-based industries, adult performers only get paid once for their appearances. They don’t get royalties or money from sales unless they’re a one-person show releasing their own content. That means working much harder for less overall pay, something that has a lot of performers afraid for their career safety.

Doxxing Sex Workers

If that wasn’t bad enough, the process these sites use to remove pirated content puts sex workers at risk. About this time last year, I watched as a friend live-tweeted discovering their videos on PornHub. Once they filed to get that removed, it took quite a bit for PornHub to get on it. The scarier part? They put up this performer’s real name. They had multiple stalkers that could now find them. It took days of several of us harassing PornHub to get this remedied. It seems that every time I turn around, though, I see this happening to more performers.

What they’re doing is doxxing sex workers – sharing their true identities instead of screen names. It’s a revenge tactic to try to scare people away from getting content they rightfully own off these tube sites. If this were something YouTube did, you bet Viacom and others would stomp on this. Unfortunately, because this is porn, the government – which usually would get in on this stuff – doesn’t care.

And that’s scary AF.

For performers who, like any other human in an occupation, has a family or another job to worry about? It’s even more terrifying.

Gathering Your Data

The UK recently based the Digital Economy Act. One of the pieces of this act is to have an age checker on all pornographic sites. The AgeID system that MindGeek sites will use does more than that – it collects information about you. And they’re offering their system to other porn sites for a fee.

In order to verify your age, you can log into a third-party site. According to RT, MindGeek has stated it won’t collect data during the verification process. However, data is still stored:

The program will find the names, postal addresses, nationalities, dates and places of birth, email addresses, mobile phone numbers and demographic information of its users. The firm notes that this information can be used by AgeID “to develop and display content and advertising tailored to your interests on our website and other sites.”

The policy also states: “We also may use these technologies to collect information about your online activities over time and across third-party websites or other online services.”

This has people concerned about visiting social media, conducting business, and more. And rightfully so, especially as MindGeek isn’t to be trusted.

Updates

As of early 2020, Pornhub has been exposed to allow videos of rape and abuse – not just fantasies.

In December 2020, Pornhub purged ‘millions’ of unverified videos amid allegations of hosting child pornography. That same month, both Mastercard and Visa pulled their services from PornHub. According to the New York Times,

Pornhub declined to make executives available on the record, but it provided a statement. “Pornhub is unequivocally committed to combating child sexual abuse material, and has instituted a comprehensive, industry-leading trust and safety policy to identify and eradicate illegal material from our community,” it said. Pornhub added that any assertion that the company allows child videos on the site “is irresponsible and flagrantly untrue.”

Here are additional items from that same NYT article that echo what I wrote here in 2018:

Pornhub is owned by Mindgeek, a private pornography conglomerate with more than 100 websites, production companies and brands. Its sites include Redtube, Youporn, XTube, SpankWire, ExtremeTube, Men.com, My Dirty Hobby, Thumbzilla, PornMD, Brazzers and GayTube. There are other major players in porn outside the Mindgeek umbrella, most notably XHamster and XVideos, but Mindgeek is a porn titan. If it operated in another industry, the Justice Department could be discussing an antitrust case against it.

Pornhub and Mindgeek also stand out because of their influence. One study this year by a digital marketing company concluded that Pornhub was the technology company with the third greatest-impact on society in the 21st century, after Facebook and Google but ahead of Microsoft, Apple and Amazon.

And some new facts to share:

While Pornhub would not tell me how many moderators it employs, I interviewed one who said that there are about 80 worldwide who work on Mindgeek sites (by comparison, Facebook told me it has 15,000 moderators). With 1.36 million new hours of video uploaded a year to Pornhub, that means that each moderator would have to review hundreds of hours of content each week.

The moderators fast forward through videos, but it’s often difficult to assess whether a person is 14 or 18, or whether torture is real or fake. Most of the underage content involves teenagers, the moderator I spoke with said, but some comes from spy cams in toilets or changing rooms and shows children only 8 to 12.

“The job in itself is soul-destroying,” the moderator said.

Executives of Pornhub appear in the past to have assumed that they enjoyed immunity under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which protects internet platforms on which members of the public post content. But in 2018 Congress limited Section 230 so that it may not be enough to shield the company, leading Mindgeek to behave better.

It has doubled the number of moderators in the last couple of years, the moderator told me, and this year Pornhub began voluntarily reporting illegal material to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. After previously dragging its feet in removing videos of children and nonconsensual content, Pornhub now is responding more rapidly.

It has also compiled a list of banned content. I obtained a copy of this list, and it purports to bar videos with terms or themes like “rape,” “preteen,” “pedophilia” and “bestiality” (it helpfully clarifies that this “includes eels, fish, octopus, insects”). Diapers are OK “if no scatophilia.” Mutilation depends on context but “cannot depict severing parts of the body.”

Pornhub has introduced software that supposedly can “fingerprint” rape videos and prevent them from being uploaded again. But Vice showed how this technology is easily circumvented on Pornhub.

I don’t see any neat solution. But aside from limiting immunity so that companies are incentivized to behave better, here are three steps that would help: 1.) Allow only verified users to post videos. 2.) Prohibit downloads. 3.) Increase moderation.

According to City News, “The company recently settled a lawsuit involving 50 women, including four Canadians, who alleged they were duped into taking part of a massive human trafficking ring.”

In October 2021, a story came out of a woman who has attempted multiple times to remove footage of her being sexually abused as a child from PornHub to no avail. She is now a part of a class-action lawsuit against the group. 

Alternatives

There are so many porn sites and companies to avoid. SO MANY. Badass Ben Woods covered a lot of them in this piece for The Next Web. I highly suggest reading it because it highlights how awful other sites are as well.

As Siri points out,

There is no such thing as a “mom and pop” free porn site, I’m sorry. The largest, most popular tube sites are owned by large corporations (or simply extremely wealthy individuals) seeking to profit by stealing other people’s copyrighted material, and organizations that promote piracy of all online media.

So just know that every time you log on to a tube site, you’re definitely hurting performers like me, who work hard and pay out of my own pocket to produce original content for my own website. And you’re hurting the non-MindGeek-owned companies like Naughty America, Bang Bros, and many of the mainly-DVD-release studios like Vivid, Girlfriends Films, Elegant Angel, Evil Angel, and New Sensations/Digital Sin. Many of those companies continually have to cut their budgets as a direct result of piracy and tube sites.

I haven’t even gotten into the issues around problematic mainstream porn. In addition to the poor quality Wozniak mentioned above, much of the porn on these sites reinforces stereotypes that are way past done. They lack representation. Hell, they even teach those without access to better sex ed some negative things about communication, consent, and general sexuality. Alas, this isn’t the time or the place to really get into that.

Let’s discuss alternatives to MindGeek sites.

Obviously, my top pick is anything from parent company Pink & White Productions like CrashPad, Pink Label, or Heavenly Spire. Yes, these are affiliate links because I love P&W. I wouldn’t be their affiliate if I didn’t. The representation for queer, trans, disabled, and people of color their sites have honestly can’t be beaten.

Other paid sites to check:

Make sure to check out amazing content from independent pornographers, cam performers, and more, too. Some of my favorite pals include: